Luminotes.com will shut down on March 1st. Read more.
Bad news: Luminotes is shutting down
well......everyone above has already said it, so I'll just join the chorus and say I've loved using Luminotes - it's the cleanest/easiest wiki I've found over the years. Thanks for your vision and integrity and your excellent communication, Dan. |
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Thank you, Dan, for your great work on Luminotes. I second George on letting us know what software you decide to use for yourself. Wish you the best. Yaser
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Dan, I have found Luminotes to be invaluable for organizing my thoughts and ideas. Thank you very much for this opportunity. Good Luck - Rutvik |
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another newcomer, latecomer...
I have been around software development since the sixties and recognize a nice application when I see one. I hope you found a job that can use your talents--it is not easy to write clean, well thought through, lightweight applications and you obviously have a talent for it. I am sure it is even harder to compete with Google, which Luminotes.com ended up trying to do: Google Documents may be an awkward monster, but if everyone uses it, it just joins a long list of such things that we all learn to live with.
What would interest me most, if you have the energy for some parting comments, would be a few thoughts about what you have learned about the Luminotes model for organizing information. I found Luminotes on a recent weekend when I decided to explore the middle ground between hierarchical methods of organizing information (e.g., essentially all file systems) and relational databases, both of which I have enough experience with to recognize that neither aligns well with the way people think. We mostly think by free association, but we are trained to organize information in more "logical" ways.
Just in a few days, I have convinced myself that Luminotes is better aligned with many of my information-organizing needs than the methods I have been using. I found other applications that operated on similar principles (try the web, for one thing), but none had the combination of a light touch and free-scultpting extensibility that your program displays. I do not need any new functionality (a tribute to your judgment in prioritization). What would help me is some advice about how to use Luminotes. I find myself sculpting it into a hierarchical or relational system, just because that is what I know. Of course, Luminotes allows the user to mimic any method for organizing information. The situation reminds me of when I first learned to program in C: for a while, all my programs looked like FORTRAN programs with some simple fixes in the syntax.
How do you personally use Luminotes to keep track of partly structured clouds of information? Do you have any idea what the connectivity graphs look like after you have generated a lot of notes? Do you just rely on search to recover notes that you later realize contained something useful but are only tenuously (or not at all) connected to your high-level notes? You could not have written a nice application like this one without having thought through these issues? Anything you are able to share?
In any event, thanks for the effort and the actual product. I plan to keep using my desktop version both for its immediate utility and as an un-aggravating vehicle for exploring the issues I raise above. Good luck with your new job. Everyone needs to make a living, but make sure you ultimately find some path for applying your talents.
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Thanks so much for your great code!I installed a version of the server and use it every day over an ssh port map. I sure don't have any plans to stop using it. It's just too perfect.Like mvo, I tend to impose a structure first and fill it in like a book or a dir structure. |
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Simply Brilliant!I echo many of the above sentiments-- figures I find out about something this perfect as it's being phased out. Story of my life :) But I still had to join to use it as long as I can, loving that I can easily export my work. And give credit where credit is due... this really is one of the best and brightest things I've come across in a long long time.I'm the teach-herself-as-she-goes sort, rarely have done any formal training. I started out writing out a website on Amtrak on the way home, pencil and paper. Even when WYSIWYG came out, it didn't take me long to see the tradeoff. What happened to my beautiful code? ;) I pretty much only use such tools when I can properly supervise them w/ split view, and when I know it will save time (like tweaking colspans in a large data table). Ok, so why am I babbling like this? Because the wiki concept evaded me for so long. I cannot begin to explain how many different blogs/wikis/apps I have tried to beat into submission to come up with some half-crippled approximation of... this. This is what I needed-- a FAST, intuitive way to get everything down... where the program doesn't interrupt the flow of thought. Where I can organize as much or as little as I need to at the time. It's a replacement for the zillions of notes, drafts, favorites, folders I end up scouring to find anything. I've only been using it a couple of weeks and the time saved is astonishing. In the time it took to, say, tweak one wiki or blog, I have been able to log all my new info, use it daily, and even start organizing some of the old. I'm glad to see others have found it as useful as I have, and appreciate the beautiful simplicity. I definitely plan to keep using the desktop version, and am interested to see if anyone 'adopts' the code. Great work, I only wish I'd found it sooner! |
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Guttedthanks for the time we had :'-( |
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Oh no!Thank you so much for making this wonderful application! I haven't had much time to use it, but I love the simplicity and the ease with which it works. |
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First Ecco Pro, now Luminotes
Just because a piece of software works wonderfully well and is head and shoulders above the competition does not insure eternal life. I truly hope Luminotes will be reincarnated and be given a fresh life in an altered body but with the same soul. Thanks for what you've done, best wishes in your new chapter of life.
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